"Zacarias Moussaoui is sent to Jail"
Recently, Moussaoui was given a life-sentence without the possibility of Parole, and there are a bunch of people in the media saying that he should’ve gotten the death penalty for conspiring to be a part of the 9/11 high-jacking plot. There’s only one problem with that line of logic: He was arrested on immigration charges way before the actual high-jackings took place, and is therefore innocent of any actual involvement in the follow-through... so I don't get it.
Let me put it this way: Before you can actually kill someone, you’re caught by a cop as you drive over to the person’s house due to a suspended license and expired registration stickers, and your car and all of its contents are confiscated… you have a permit in your wallet for the shotgun that has a locking device on the trigger in the trunk. How are you arrested for “Conspiracy to Commit Murder”? You admit to what you planned to do… but you probably know better than to do that, don’t you?
Now, let’s say that Moussaoui knew of the plot through a friend that is an actual Al-Qaeda Operative, and confesses to being involved in a terrorist plot he really wasn’t involved in. Since all the other high-jackers are dead, and are therefore unable to corroborate his testimony, you have to assume that he’s like that crazy homeless guy in your neighborhood that claims that he knew Jesus personally, and that the Pastor at your church is really a Pimp named “Pimp-Hand Pinky”. The Pastor may be “Pimp-Hand Pinky”, but you won’t know until you have proof… otherwise, all you’ve got is rumor, or what they call in the Legal Profession, “Speculation”… and Speculative Testimony that is uncorroborated is useless in court.
Yeah, I watch a lot of Law & Order… whatchagonnado sissy?!
From all of the crap that came out about Moussaoui on the major news networks in the days and weeks after September 11th, I didn’t hear of any actual evidence that he was really involved. The media and the government capitalized on the fragile state of most Americans in those days by saying that he was not only a member of Al-Qaeda… he was French! Oooooooo… I’m terrified! All they really said about him was that he had “Ties” to Al-Qaeda… which anyone in this country with a Muslim family member or friend could also be reasonably accused of by the government… that doesn’t necessarily make it true. Hell, I met a couple of guys in the Navy that were Muslim and visited their Mosque, does that make me a collaborator?
Keep in mind that whenever a Terrorist organization takes credit for something, nine times out of ten, they’re full of shit. The reason for that is that Terrorist organizations are opportunists; they’d take credit for the assassination of JFK if it got them the street cred and financial backing they needed. Terrorist bombings, Jihad, decapitations, public hangings and kidnappings are the Public Relations that they use to spread their message that they’re doing something important. Haven’t you ever wondered why they like to video-tape the shit they do? What do you do when need to send auditions to club promoters? That’s right… you have to send them a tape of proof that you know how to sing and play your instruments, and that’s what Terrorist groups have been doing for years now.
In other words, Osama bin Laden and his buddies at the top of Al-Qaeda are the Flava Flav’s of the Militant Islamic Fundamentalist Terror Movement… with every bombing, they’re basically up on stage yelling, “Yeeeaaaahhh, Boooooooyyyyy!!!”
So what does all this have to do with Moussaoui? Here’s the thing that confuses me: If you are charged with conspiracy to commit any criminal act, don’t you have to actually be caught trying to do it? If Moussaoui was caught on Immigration charges weeks before the high-jackings, how can he be charged for something that he couldn’t have possibly participated in? Claiming to be guilty of a crime doesn’t make you guilty… it just makes you dumb as hell… but if being idiotic were a crime, Bush would be in jail right now, wouldn’t he?
I’d applaud the jurors for choosing to not give Moussaoui the Death Penalty, but I don’t think that they had much of a choice in this case… Death Penalty or Life without the possibility of Parole… that’s not really a choice, now is it? Either way, you die in the State’s custody... and we as the taxpayers foot the bill for it, so everyone loses...
Well, upon thinking about it, maybe it's better to die... I mean, who wants to be shanked for not doing a "Courtesy Flush"?
Let me put it this way: Before you can actually kill someone, you’re caught by a cop as you drive over to the person’s house due to a suspended license and expired registration stickers, and your car and all of its contents are confiscated… you have a permit in your wallet for the shotgun that has a locking device on the trigger in the trunk. How are you arrested for “Conspiracy to Commit Murder”? You admit to what you planned to do… but you probably know better than to do that, don’t you?
Now, let’s say that Moussaoui knew of the plot through a friend that is an actual Al-Qaeda Operative, and confesses to being involved in a terrorist plot he really wasn’t involved in. Since all the other high-jackers are dead, and are therefore unable to corroborate his testimony, you have to assume that he’s like that crazy homeless guy in your neighborhood that claims that he knew Jesus personally, and that the Pastor at your church is really a Pimp named “Pimp-Hand Pinky”. The Pastor may be “Pimp-Hand Pinky”, but you won’t know until you have proof… otherwise, all you’ve got is rumor, or what they call in the Legal Profession, “Speculation”… and Speculative Testimony that is uncorroborated is useless in court.
Yeah, I watch a lot of Law & Order… whatchagonnado sissy?!
From all of the crap that came out about Moussaoui on the major news networks in the days and weeks after September 11th, I didn’t hear of any actual evidence that he was really involved. The media and the government capitalized on the fragile state of most Americans in those days by saying that he was not only a member of Al-Qaeda… he was French! Oooooooo… I’m terrified! All they really said about him was that he had “Ties” to Al-Qaeda… which anyone in this country with a Muslim family member or friend could also be reasonably accused of by the government… that doesn’t necessarily make it true. Hell, I met a couple of guys in the Navy that were Muslim and visited their Mosque, does that make me a collaborator?
Keep in mind that whenever a Terrorist organization takes credit for something, nine times out of ten, they’re full of shit. The reason for that is that Terrorist organizations are opportunists; they’d take credit for the assassination of JFK if it got them the street cred and financial backing they needed. Terrorist bombings, Jihad, decapitations, public hangings and kidnappings are the Public Relations that they use to spread their message that they’re doing something important. Haven’t you ever wondered why they like to video-tape the shit they do? What do you do when need to send auditions to club promoters? That’s right… you have to send them a tape of proof that you know how to sing and play your instruments, and that’s what Terrorist groups have been doing for years now.
In other words, Osama bin Laden and his buddies at the top of Al-Qaeda are the Flava Flav’s of the Militant Islamic Fundamentalist Terror Movement… with every bombing, they’re basically up on stage yelling, “Yeeeaaaahhh, Boooooooyyyyy!!!”
So what does all this have to do with Moussaoui? Here’s the thing that confuses me: If you are charged with conspiracy to commit any criminal act, don’t you have to actually be caught trying to do it? If Moussaoui was caught on Immigration charges weeks before the high-jackings, how can he be charged for something that he couldn’t have possibly participated in? Claiming to be guilty of a crime doesn’t make you guilty… it just makes you dumb as hell… but if being idiotic were a crime, Bush would be in jail right now, wouldn’t he?
I’d applaud the jurors for choosing to not give Moussaoui the Death Penalty, but I don’t think that they had much of a choice in this case… Death Penalty or Life without the possibility of Parole… that’s not really a choice, now is it? Either way, you die in the State’s custody... and we as the taxpayers foot the bill for it, so everyone loses...
Well, upon thinking about it, maybe it's better to die... I mean, who wants to be shanked for not doing a "Courtesy Flush"?
posted by Todd Tobin at 1:37 PM
2 Comments:
I took some pre law here in Canada; I remember a case where a man was picked up for conspiracy to commit robbery.
He was pulled over in his car and even though he had not committed the robbery yet plans where found as well as a ski mask, the weapon.... and a bag....
I believe (but this was a few years ago so my memory is vague).... that if you are caught before you commit the act and there is enough evidence to prove that you were going to commit the crime the sentence is the same. Just because your plans got foiled before they were able to participate doesn't mean that you are not guilty of the crime.
I believe this man said that he had changed his mind and wasn't going to commit the robbery. Poor timing on his part if this was true.
I don't know if this is a good law or not but if there is no evidence to prove this they won't be convicted.
For your story, maybe you could argue that they didn't realize to the public the information as to how he was tied because they don't want to spoil their case for court. I say this with caution though.... I don't believe this anymore than you will....
With the new sanctions to hold people under suspicion without any evidence is scary.... I hope enough people will fight against your laws and get them changed back.
I don't know if the man you speak of is guilty of conspiracy, let’s just hope that the court this is tried before asks for proof beyond a reasonable doubt....that he was involved. Whatever the outcome I hope he receives a fair and just trial.... everyone deserves this. I shouldn't get into this though.... my reply is long enough.
Hmm...my degree is in public relations...maybe this is a job opportunity! Then again, I never did take “Fear and Deceit 301.” Back to the drawing board...
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